its no fair

[SUBLIMEinfinity]

That's because most of the Vice Lord have move out of the empoverished identy theft neighborhoods.

Goal is the same.

Just pay attention and you'lkl have perfect timing at CW.

[Locksley]

"certain areas (like castle wars, all the minigames, and towns) you cant attack anyone."

So, how am I supposed to kill my opponents in duel arena, bounty hunter or FoG (when I'm the hunter)? I actually like minigames, they're not too bad, ya know.

Well, if you ask me, low lvls can win. In duel arena, bounty hunter which are kinda similar to pk, assuming no conditions, one can use EVERYTHING there is to win, why not? Tonnes of strategies.

Bind, use prayer & items to boost stats, hug obstacles & running round in circles, hitting meleers from far, lowering stats (curse...bla bla), ranging, protection prayers...when used correctly, a lower lvl person can win.

But, in my opinion, FoG gives BEST chance for low lvls to win.
I've seen a lvl 58 beat a lvl 94 person on FoG scoreboard by 300 charges.
I've seen a lvl 73 beat a lvl 102 person.

Level can give advantages, but not an absolute win. Exceptions would be BIG A** level differences (like a lvl 106 vs lvl 3, trust me, I've seen that happen).

PK is "worse" than bounty hunter lvl wise when wildy lvl high, if someone is "stupid" enuff to wander far off, extremely high lvls can gang & pick on that person. At least bounty hunter is 1 to 1, unless u go rogue, in pk, many can gang up on one (like clan wars, in which u do not lose anything, so no harm). In FoG, pairing ENTIRELY random, a lvl 3 vs lvl 106 has happened. I've beaten a lvl 12 by 3000+ charges. So bounty hunter's unfair?

Frankly speaking, life w/o pk is okay for me. Guys, its just a game, get on with it. I'm sure pk isn't everything RS is. Go bounty hunter, duel arena (free training!), FoG (free runes for mage exp!), clan wars (RUMBLE!).
Or go fishing. Or get a real life.

"in my humble opinion, this is the greatest that i have ever thought of." Sorry to burst your bubble, but thats not very humble to say that your opinion is the greatest one you've had.

[SUBLIMEinfinity]

BH is a sad cliche of a once glorious thing.

Before you go off and rant against somebody's heartfelt opinion, take into full consideration of what's on the other side of that debate.

Swing that judgement pendulum right back to you kid...

Higher levels generally imbue higher skills.


BHers are mostly pures.

The only real pures usually are 50 85 1 99 range in f2p.

It gets worse in members.

Strategy is a vital part of PVPing.


What about when those high levels start being more strategic than the newbs?...



-.-

[54boys]

The worst thing about bh is when the pures run cos you bind them and hit 15's with fire blast.

They hang next to the exit, then when they get powned, step back through.

[Locksley]

SUBLIME's right. In a way, BH is a 'toned down' pk, similar, yes, replica, no. NO minigame can truly replace pk.

What oss spy needs are more practical enhancements to jagex brining pk back, though honestly, pk is fine the way it was. Sure, pk was never made to be fair, but hey, nobody said fairness was necessary.

Unfortunately, with the influx of minigames, BH, FoG...bla bla, the trend is that jagex is gonna throw at us poor imitations of pk to appease those who miss pk.

Haha...those imitations worked for me. Quite fun actually. Never the perfect substitute for PK, but still not too bad an attempt by jagex. Feel free to disagree with me.

While I would say lvls dun always guarantee victory, it does most of the time. High lvl ppl rarely are idiots.

"What about when those high levels start being more strategic than the newbs?..."

Most of high lvls are actually more strategic than newbs as it is. I didn't say high lvls are not strategic, simply felt that its possible (chances are most likely very low) that lower lvls may outmaneuver a higher lvl opponent and win. Though you can see I haven't seen many examples.

[oss spy]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but thats not very humble to say that your opinion is the greatest one you've had.
no, that was my opinion. i didnt say 'you all know it is', i just said "i think", so please get off my back. and, no one said how my idea could go wrong. if you dont like the idea, i dont care if you disagree with me as long as you dont yell or put me down.
more importantly, this is (to me) a good idea, and i would really apreciate it if you could respect my opinion. i respect yours, so you should respect mine, instead of picking it apart and telling me how badly it sucks.

[Hex_55]

Hey now keep the debate clean.

[Saram0n]

Originally Posted by oss spy

this is how jagex should solve the problem: bring pking back, but, ceartain areas (like castle wars, all the minigames, and towns) you cant attack anyone. Also, you cant bring in items that are worth over 50k (total) that are not related to combat (excluding food, stat boosters, and potions) and excessive amounts of armor and weapons. the most gold you can take is 100k. If you do kill people and take money, you cannot take more than 200k every 30 minutes. this is a way to prevent real world trading.

Any items that fail to meet these boundries would be stored in the bank, and trying to take more item value than you are allowed to keep would result in 1hp lost. repeated trying to would double the damage, and it adds up after a while. Also, there would be an option to report real world traders, and that would result in the banning of the rtw's account.

is there anyway this system could go wrong? in my humble opinion, this is the greatest that i have ever thought of.

That still allows for rwt. If you wanted to buy 12m, the rwt person would get a sara sword and go out to the player killing area. Then he would allow the other person would kill them. Then they have 12m