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View Poll Results: Which of the following exist, 1) evil, 2) darkness, 3) cold?
A) 1, 2, 3 8 80.00%
B) 1, 2 1 10.00%
C) 1, 3 0 0%
D) 2, 3 1 10.00%
E) 1 0 0%
F) 2 0 0%
G) 3 0 0%
H) Non of them 0 0%
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Old 03-23-2007, 05:50 PM
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Does Cold exist? Does Darkness exist? Does Evil Exist?

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Did God create everything that exists? Does evil exist? Did God create evil?




A University professor at a well known institution of higher learning challenged his students with this question: “Did God create everything that exists?” A student bravely replied, “Yes he did!”




“God created everything?” the professor asked.




“Yes sir, he certainly did,” the student replied.




The professor answer, “If God created everything; then God created evil. And, since evil exists, and according to the principle that our works define who we are, then we can assume God is evil.”




The student became quiet and did not answer the professor’s hypothetical definition. The professor, quite pleased with himself, boasted to the students that he had proven once more that the Christian faith was a myth.




Another student raised his hand and said, “May I ask you a question, professor?”




“Of course,” replied the professor.




The student stood up and asked, “Professor, does cold exist?”




“What kind of question is this? Of course it exists. Have you never been cold?” The other students snickered at the young man’s question.




The young man replied, “In fact sir, cold does not exist. According to the laws of physics, what we consider cold is in reality the absence of heat. Every body or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy.

Absolute zero (-460 F) is the total absence of heat; and all matter becomes inert and incapable of reaction at that temperature. Cold does not exist. We have created this word to describe how we feel of we have no heat.”




The student continued, “Professor, Does darkness exist?”




The professor responded, “Of course it does.”




The student replied, “Once again you are wrong sir, darkness does not exist either. Darkness is in reality the absence of light. Light we can study, but not darkness. In fact, we can use Newton’s prism to break white light into many colors and study the various wavelengths of each color. You cannot measure darkness. A simple ray of light can break into a world of darkness and illuminate it. How can you know how dark a certain space is? You measure the amount of light present.

Isn’t this correct? Darkness is a term used by man to describe what happens when there is no light present.”




Finally the young man asked the professor, “Sir, does evil exist?”




Now uncertain, the professor responded, “Of course, as I have already said. We see it everyday. It is in the daily examples of man’s inhumanity to man. It is in the multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world. These manifestations are nothing else but evil.”




To this the student replied, “Evil does not exist, sir, or at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God’s love present in his heart. It’s like cold that comes when there is not heat, or darkness that comes when there is no light.”
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Old 04-20-2007, 04:57 PM
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Talking well dude thats why its called faith.

my dad told me that so i beliive him no matter wat :) and my dad not a lier. honsetly i wonder those things to but its better to keep it to yourself cause
your gonna have a lot of people saying why do u ask that of course it exists!:p i suggest that u keep this stuff of the forums for that reason.
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Old 05-20-2007, 09:04 PM
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wow very nice! i have heard of one. can God make a rock he cant move.

but if you think about it. it counterdicts its self
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Hum, check shades' threads.

Rather interesting. I'll abstain from this one. My answer would shock the world.


Well, not really but I don't feel like writting.

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Then God doesnt exist?

God is the absense of Evil?

Is there really a divine force upon us?

I will not post my anwser,

due to the fact i have many thoughts.

Dont get me started on religion.
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i still think darkness exists even by those terms because there is probably one place somewhere where there is no light coming in at all. it is impossible though to find it unless we have a camera or video camera of some kind that makes no light at all because to see it, we need light.

too lazy to type anything else

other topics cool though
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isn't this necroing??
anyway.. i am all of the above
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"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.

Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.

Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?

Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?"
-Epicurus

There seems to be a smattering of these tales out there, usually some boastful and self sure atheist who outsmarts himself and is proven wrong. It's amusing to me that no one seems to be making counter-stories with a pious member of the religious right being worked into a corner by an atheist.

In the end? This is just a feel-good sort of story. it doesn't serve to prove anything, other than that clever parallelisms and a subtle defamation of the opposing party does quite a good job of keeping the unrestful masses confident and happy.

Silly, really.

It's a defense mechanism. Those with no footholds but those of wispy faith, striking out at those standing firmly on the ledge of reality.

My thoughts on the matter?

I refuse to expand my ego to the point where i would accept that there is some omnipotent being up there who cares about us, is offended by our misdeeds, swayed by our pleas, dedicated to naught but 'man', and carefully watching our lives play out with the utmost of concern.

But hey, makes a nice bedtime story, right?

Too bad so many of us never seem able to wake up.
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Yes, it is necroing, but for a good reason.

If you notice, I put you all thinking by necroing this thing.

It's not a big deal, but this guy had some interesting threads nobody else had.

Horray for ryan. not 100% with you, BUT close to that. (:
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